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  • Croc-O-Bite!
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    Your story just makes me like Mark Taylor that much more.

    What Vile did to you & the PAH Foundation last year was disgusting & was the reason why I stayed away from Power Con.
    I hope others felt the same way as Mr. Taylor and that played a major role in this year's Power Con getting cancelled, because Vile has no one to blame but himself for his decision to actively exclude fellow fans of MOTU from what could have been a great ongoing con.

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  • Emiliano
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    Mark Taylor story is pretty simple.
    Mark decided to not go to the second Power-Con when he heard I was not invited and not welcomed, and the same was for the PAH Foundation.
    He told Val he would never go to an event that is about excluding someone. Val didn't get it, and he even went as far as saying it was my fault Mark wasn't coming and that Mark wanted me to apologize to Val.
    Val kept calling Mark, who didn't budge from his position. Val never admitted any of his mistakes to him, he kept inviting him and talking to him like he is convinced that eventually everybody will realize how crazy Emiliano is.

    Well, to cut it short, we held the PAH Foundation reception that year, in the same Power Con Hotel (basically a small dinner with art on display) and Val tried to get us kicked out of the Hotel.
    I called Mark during the reception to say hi, and he and his wife Rebecca decided to show up at the hotel to see us and participate at our reception. The fans attending were delighted as both Mark (who also had open heart surgery only a month before!) and Rebecca are lovely people to talk to.
    I think that finally made it clear for Val.

    BTW, I don't think any of those creators have been paid or requested payments. Talents like voice actors do, but ex-Mattel employees or Filmation usually don't.
    Last edited by Emiliano; 07-27-2014, 06:13 PM.

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  • Kumkani
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    Mark Taylor said he would NEVER work with Val again, said he was rude, unprofessional and some other things. Then there are creators that got screwed by the crossgen debacle. To Val's credit I believe he paid them all out of his own pocket, but it took a long time (understandably) and some of those creators are bitter about the experience.

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  • deano_ue
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    i know i shouldnt but id be lying if i wasnt curious about the stories with other creators

  • Kumkani
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    It's closer and easier for me to get to new york, but the actions of the organizers as of late (I heard a lot of talent won't work with Val again, this includes he-man talent like Mark Taylor) and the poor planning of the con (too close but too far from NYCC, people can't go to both in the span of a month, nycc is much bigger draw if it was held that weekend it's likely you would get much more attendees as they could reach both) and the ego involved (starting a con should be small at first and let it grow, they started too big and didn't have the money to sustain the size so they cut everything back) that doomed it in my opinion.

    Smarter business minded fans will strike up a better con. might not start better but it will grow into one.

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    Thundercats and TMNT were REMOVED from Power-Con? Whose bonehead decision was that?!

    Scoot Nutlick must wanted to make sure there were enough vendor tables for his Mo-Larr, Spector and Baby Skeletors.

  • Mechanizor
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    Well it makes more sense now, however still it's not cheap anymore especailly the plane tickets and accommodations .

  • TechTrek
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    sucks for those who already planned plane tickets and hotel stuff for sure.

    1. Dropping TMNT on a year that they had a movie coming out was in fact what I think a bad choice. From what people spoke above, I have to echo in agreement, There were a TON of ninja turtle fans at the power con that i went to last year. I thought it made sense having them, and thundercats. Not sure about the cost on those voice actors etc, so i can't speak out of turn, but on a year like this one where the movie was coming out, I could only think that it would have helped.

    2. Location. I don't know where all the people "involved with he-man/turtles etc" live, but for me the LA area seems to be the logical place. if lets say 75 percent of people that have been involved on a professional level with these properties live in cali, and 25 percent live in new york, and the con is still a smaller less funded con, the place to go would be LA, and keep it there. why did they try to change it? for the fans? sorry but fans will go where the good stuff is, period. its a proven concept. look how watered down they made wizard worlds trying to cater to fans. they all became so lame, and C2E2 stepped in saying, we are big, and we are in chicago.
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  • Captain Atkin
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    If we ever ran a convention, it wouldn't be called Power-Con

  • Captain Atkin
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    When I go to California, I always go for two weeks. Just going for Power-Con would be way to expensive. The cost of the plane tickets for me and my girlfreind are about $1300. Then you add on hotel expenses, car rental, restaurants, tourists attractions, and it clocks in at about $3000.

  • deano_ue
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    i always knew there was the under lying jokes with motu/pop. the whole gay joke and corny jokes. but now the fans themselves are becoming the jokes, and its not hard to see why on both sides of the spectrum

    i had a quick glance at the org and its the reaction i expected a few really pissed, most all woe is me and some already throwing jabs at who's to blame. take a guess its the nasty negators who never support anything

  • Mechanizor
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    Originally posted by deano_ue View Post
    bravo all involved in the higher ups, you finally managed to take one of the biggest successful toy lines/cartoons and fan loved properties and turn it into one of the biggest jokes of geek/nerd culture
    rko:You got that right Deano...

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  • Mechanizor
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    My dear lord, $3000 for a single freaking convention???!!!! (8-0

  • Mechanizor
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    The fans didn't fail Power-Con; Power-Con failed the fans.
    Probably it's both. Val and company have mismanaged the whole deal, and probably fans are disappointed with the ending of the line and with Mattel's wishy washy schemes and offerings, and saw no reason to shed more money over it.

  • deano_ue
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    I didn't want it to be cancelled. i don't like val from my experiences online with him, and i have no love for the org. but i'm sick and tired of this fandom being screwed over and over again due to peoples own personal pettiness and interests. I was one of the ones pushing for power-con in new york as i felt that it would allow a lot more international fans to attend, it would still be costly but no where near as bad as la, but it seem that wasnt meant to be.

    i still think if it had moved before all the spilt had kicked off it would have been very successful.

    ahh well im sure it'll all become twisted around in someway that people who didn't buy the tickets or couldn't will get the brunt of the blame and flames

    I honestly cant think of anything else to say at the moment, with the line "ending" power con cancelling and the movie and comic firmly in the grip of the self serving mentality of Neitlich i have very little hope for this brand and property ever becoming the power house it once was

    bravo all involved in the higher ups, you finally managed to take one of the biggest successful toy lines/cartoons and fan loved properties and turn it into one of the biggest jokes of geek/nerd culture
    Last edited by deano_ue; 07-12-2014, 05:04 PM.

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  • RoboSteveo
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    I feel bad for the East Coast fans who wanted to go, but there is no way the fans can be blamed for Power-Con being cancelled. Val only told people last week(!) that sales were at 28%. Seven days isn't enough time to give people if you want to see a bump in sales. People should have been given at least a month's notice on the possibility of the Con getting cancelled. The fans didn't fail Power-Con; Power-Con failed the fans.

  • Black Zodac
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    I don't think Val will be losing any money from Power-Con being cancelled. He just won't make any profit from it this year. I would hate to see anyone involved with the Con lose money from it being cancelled. As Captain Atkin pointed out though, the people who really lose the most from this are the international fans who paid for plane tickets and hotel rooms. I don't think anything sucks more than that, and if there ever is another Power-Con those people should be given free tickets for their loss.

  • Captain Atkin
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    Originally posted by MegaGearMax View Post
    Power-Con has been canceled.

    I know Val and the .org have their enemies who are going to celebrate, but the MOTU fans on the East Coast who don't care for these inter-forum politics and can't afford to go to California have truly lost out.
    Max, I don't think many people are going to be celebrating Power-Con getting cancelled. I think most people know that the East Coast fans have lost out on the chance to mingle with other He-Man and She-Ra fans in a public setting. People also know that there are fans across the world who bought plane tickets and booked hotel rooms who probably won't be able to get their money back for those expenses on such short notice. My heart especially goes out to those people, because they are the ones who really lost out the most. I went to 3 Power-Cons, and each trip cost me about $3000 US. It isn't a cheap trip for international fans to attend Power-Con, or for fans who live in other US states.

    I don't think inter-forum politics had anything to do with Power-Con getting cancelled this year, and I doubt that it affected ticket sales in any sort of signifacant way. There were a number of things working against Power-Con this year. There was less talent booked for the panels, and dropping the ThunderCats and TMNT aspects of the Con no doubt hurt sales too. TMNT has a major motion picture coming out this summer, and that was something that should have been capitalized on (especially in NYC). The convention was also more expensive to attend this year, and the cost for the hotel rooms was much higher than they were in California. People were being offered less this year, but expected to pay more. At the end of the day, it would appear that the market simply wasn't large enough to have a MOTU-themed convention on the east coast.

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  • Draego-Man
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    Sorry to East Coast fans, but I'm REALLY happy that Val got a small slice of karma! I hope he lost a bunch of money too.

  • MegaGearMax
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    Power-Con has been canceled.

    I know Val and the .org have their enemies who are going to celebrate, but the MOTU fans on the East Coast who don't care for these inter-forum politics and can't afford to go to California have truly lost out.

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  • GREP-A-TOR
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    Power Con - soon to be brought to you by He-Man World. "Where Fans REALLY have the power!"

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  • deano_ue
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    so its deadline day, anyone expecting a last minute serge or will this be another ohh we pulled through.

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  • Mechanizor
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    Actually I was talking about one the guests from MYP 200X cartoon, I think he was either the producer/writer or the director, he was pissed off because the noise from the other room was interrupting his event and Val and his organizers didn't do much about it or something in that nature, I honestly forgot the details!

  • Draego-Man
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    You mean like how they excluded Emiliano?

    I think what is happening is that the piper is being paid. Val is a jerk and people are sick of his crap.

  • Captain Atkin
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    Not this year. That is a real shame. I shared a shuttle bus with one of the actors last year on my way to Power-Con, and she was super funny and sweet. All of the voice actors from ThunderCats are great people. I loved hearing their stories about working on the show.

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