A unified Mattel / Filmation universe for vintage continuity?

[Shawn]

Just brainstorming what it might look like in a hypothetical alternative Universe in which Mattel and Filmation merge...

Matt Mason + military H.E.M.E.N.1988 pitch + Blackstar = fighting off Horde invasion of Earth? He-Man and heroic warriors are summoned to earth to aid in the fight.

Perhaps this world is also populated by colorful superheroes LIKE Superman, or ancient heroes like Hercules? (the spiritual "H.E.M.E.N. of earth?)

Photog could be a blend of earth and Eternia science and bridge the worlds once He-Man and friends return home? (this might explain his super heroic looking design?)

The era would be around 1988? Post Powers of Grayskull, but Pre New Adventures. This would be a sub line/spin off to replace PoP and PoG.

This would be around the time of Laser Light He-Man and Laser Power Skeletor. (post Live action movie, but pre-New Adventures...)

Perhaps this story could use some material from the MOTU2 movie script? IIRC Skeletor was a cyborg and possessed business man on earth or something?

Skeletor as a body hopping Ghost might be kind of coo? The Sprit of Skeletor variant VS Jungle/Rambo He-Man?!?!?!?

A lost in space Sprit of Skeletor inhabits the body of a lost in Time Keldor (that would be the secret that would undo him!)

A post Horde invasion Earth would lead into the timelines of the frontier planet of New Taxas in Bravestarr and Captain Power and the Solders of the Future in a post nuclear Earth.

What if Lord Dredd from Captain Power was created from Horde scraps and powered from a spark of from Sprit of Skeletor?

Planet of the Apes epic spoiler moment. Primus in The New Adventures is super duper future post Captain Power Earth!?!?! That is why the designs are similar...


Yeah. I know. I'm crazy! LOL But join me in crazy town!

What existing Mattel/Filmation product would you tie into Masters of The Universe?

In what NEW directions would you like to see He-man explored in? (in a vintage setting) what would He-man be up to in 1992-2000

er. BESIDES THAT!!!!!

[Matthew L. Martin]

I just want to see how many people are going to get the "Total Eclipse of the Heart" reference.

Could the Captain Power Metal Wars be a result of trying to reverse-engineer Horde technology and having it turn on humanity?

[Captain Atkin]

Here are a few dates from established canon:

In the comic book adaption of the 1987 Masters of the Universe movie, it was revealed that all humans from Eternia were originally from Earth. They had travelled to Eternia on the Starfinder 5, which left Earth on July 10th, 2221. He-Man says that his ancestors from Earth arrived over a thousand years ago, placing the "Masters of the Universe" storyline in what would be our 33rd century.

The adventures of Captain Power begin in 2147, following the aftermath of the Metal Wars. Going by that date, the first humans to travel to Eternia left our world 74 years later. The flag He-Man holds his his hands in the comic appears to say NASA (only the letters NAS are shown). It is possible that the Soldiers of the Future defeated Lord Dread and his Bio-Dread Empire, and life returned to normal. Another possibility is that the first Eternians left Earth to escape the rule of the Bio-Dread Empire, but the American flag saying NASA on it suggests to me that life returned to normal on Earth by that time. The Bio-Dread Empire were technologically advanced, so it is also possible that they may have left Earth themselves if they lost the war, to colonize another world.

It is never established from what year either Captain Marlena Glenn or John Blackstar come from, but their ships and technology give the impression that they are from our future. They may have been exploring space before the Metal Wars had begun, or they may be from around the same time period that the first humans left Earth to colonize Eternia (and possibly other worlds).

[Matthew L. Martin]

Here are a few dates from established canon:

In the comic book adaption of the 1987 Masters of the Universe movie, it was revealed that all humans from Eternia were originally from Earth. They had travelled to Eternia on the Starfinder 5, which left Earth on July 10th, 2221. He-Man says that his ancestors from Earth arrived over a thousand years ago, placing the "Masters of the Universe" storyline in what would be our 33rd century.

Not necessarily. The movie and the comic adaptation both make it clear that the Cosmic Key allows four-dimensional travel. And it's strongly implied by the various things we see that a) there's some sort of spatial connection between Eternia and Earth (I had the wormhole idea back in the late 90s, and I seriously doubt I was alone) and b) it's not temporally stable. How else do you want to account for the fact that Marlena crashed roughly twenty years before the Christmas Special, but seems to come from a more advanced Earth than Alicia and Miguel? Thus, while the Starfinder 5 launched on July 10, 2221, I'd say it's inconclusive as to 'when' Earth is relative to their arrival on Eternia.

[Captain Atkin]

Not necessarily. The movie and the comic adaptation both make it clear that the Cosmic Key allows four-dimensional travel. And it's strongly implied by the various things we see that a) there's some sort of spatial connection between Eternia and Earth (I had the wormhole idea back in the late 90s, and I seriously doubt I was alone) and b) it's not temporally stable. How else do you want to account for the fact that Marlena crashed roughly twenty years before the Christmas Special, but seems to come from a more advanced Earth than Alicia and Miguel? Thus, while the Starfinder 5 launched on July 10, 2221, I'd say it's inconclusive as to 'when' Earth is relative to their arrival on Eternia.

The Cosmic Key is a new invention in the film. It is also a Thenurian (alien) invention. So the first human astronauts who travelled to Eternia would not have used cosmic key technology on their ship. They may have gone through a wormhole or something as you suggest, and actually arrived at Eternia in the past, but there is nothing in the actual movie storyline or comic book adaption to suggest this.

In regards to Marlena and the kids from the Christmas story, we never get a real look at the Earth that Alicia and Miguel come from. They appear to be country kids, and we just see the inside of their home for a few seconds at the end of the cartoon. No technology is shown inside their home to suggest what time period they are from. They could be 1980s kids, or they could be from the same future as Marlena.

[Matthew L. Martin]

A thought that just occurred to me yesterday:

Could Rio Blast and Bravestarr be part of the same organization?

The 1987 Style Guide (and the Wonder Bread Trading Card based on that--I had Rio and Eternia in my childhood) mention him as a marshall in an interstellar starband, which the UK comics ran with. The outfits are nearly identical. I see some fans have run with this idea; is there anything in Bravestarr that would prohibit it?