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    Lets say that Mattel decided to release 2.0 versions, of every "vintage" character that they have already released (and will release) in MOTUC.... But instead they now were to release them in the red brick packaging (of the original MOTU figures), and the 2.0 figures would now be "corrected" versions- of whatever was wrong with the first releases (IE like She-ra, goddess, Roboto).

    Would you be willing to buy 2.0 versions of MOTUC of any figures, that you have already bought?

    If you would buy them again, why would you buy them and which character/s would you re-buy?

    Also would Neitlich being a part of the brand, or not being a part of it- influence your decision to buy or not buy?

    Would you prefer that this line be a day of sale only, or for it to be a sub only?
    Last edited by Jason Todd; 08-26-2014, 08:45 PM.

  • #2
    I'd buy a color corrected Beast Man
    Heroic human battering ram, catapult, and space warp device.

    https://battleram.wordpress.com/

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    • MegaGearMax
      MegaGearMax commented
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      Me too. More vibrant.

      He's one of the only major characters without a variant. Too bad MOTU vs DC tanked at TRU. Mattel not wanting to make the DC Figures come with unique decos probably helped kill this line. And we certainly warned TG about it.

    • Shawn
      Shawn commented
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      Same I'd like a slightly larger torso to make him a bit taller as well. I've always felt he is too short.

      I want "Alcala-Red" as well Filmation style, so a larger torso could be used twice IMO.

  • #3
    No thanks. After the sub ends, I'm done with this god forsaken company.
    "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." ― Noam Chomsky

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    • #4
      Hell yeah i need 2.0 versions of Teela, He-Man, Sorceress,Evil-Lyn,Roboto, King Hiss, Fisto, Jitzu and Clamp Champ etc.(damn maybe more!)
      But several design flaws should be corrected and some stuff should get an updated look.
      Boxed vintage style, without any bio, would be very appreciated.
      A new Brandmanager would be very welcome too, as it would probably make it possible for Emiliano to work with the 4Horsemen again and the figures produced could only benefit from that.
      6 figures a year and day of sale( if they make enough available) would be what i prefer.

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      • #5
        For the sake of the Exercise I'll play:
        I'll do 13 figures why? Because I can.

        He-Man: Same old He-Man, New Forearms (that can use The NA He-Man hand)
        New Alcalá Sword, Shield and the Actual Vintage Ax with the grooved handle.
        Why? A Classic He-Man that can do the I HAVE THE POWER pose, also the Mini Comic weapons are for He-Man and you can pop in the nifty Alcalá head on him to make a Mini comic He-Man.

        Skeletor: Same Old Skeletor (Head in Filmation color) but with Oo-Larr Forearms, He-Ro Greaves, Demo-Man feet, Keldor Cape in Skeletor colors with a "200X colors staff and Purple Alcalá style sword.) give him a Melty face Keldor head.
        Why? Because I want a Skeletor that can be made into other versions of Skeletor. Pop the Alcalá head from D-Man on him and make a Mini comic Accurate Skeletor. Pop the Faceless One's boots on him and have a reasonable facsimile to Filmation Skeletor. The cape and Staff are nods to the 200X Skeletor that we may never get. Mix and match and stuff. the melty face for Keldor as a second head helps sell him as a nod to the Keldor-to-Skeletor 200x exclusive toy.

        Teela:
        New 2.0 Buck usage for her. So, new dress. Have her head be blonde like the Mini Comic.
        why? Teela is a pain in the neck to find. She's also core enough.

        Evil Lyn: 200X look
        Why? BaGEL was a wasted Slot and I want an Evil Lyn that doesn't use hand me downs from Teela. Also, an Evil Lyn figure in the 2.0 buck would be a blessing!

        Roboto:
        Pretty much same old Roboto with corrected shoulders, new left hand that can be removable like HP and a new second 200X head and armor
        Why? reversed Shoulders, brittle torso come to mind.

        Sorceress:
        Same old Sorceress with normal Teela thighs and a new wing system without Dem Drums.

        Tri-Klops:
        Same old TK, but with the New Forearms from the He-Man mentioned above.
        Why? Tri-Klops is supposed to be a badass swordsman. The extra articulation would benefit him. Also he's a bit of a pain to find.

        Trap Jaw:
        Same old TJ, but with the new Flogg boots that have super tight ankles. Perhaps Different attachments (not going to say 200X, but I'd love 200X Attachments.) Maybe brighter blues for TJ's Skin

        Fisto:
        Same Ol' Fisto but with a new Full Armor and no 200X accessories. The hair could be a bit more reddish. Perhaps use the Vintage He-Man left Bracer on Fisto.
        why? Fisto is scarce as heck! Also, people want a more Vintage-Looking Fisto and the 200X sheath doesn't help.

        Beastman:
        Basically, Same old Beastman, with slightly brighter colors but with Carnivus' right hand. (also, removable 200X inspired leg armor)
        Why? He's core ans a pain in the neck to find.

        Prince Adam:
        Reuse the New forearms I mention for He-Man, New Vest with a sheath for a sword. A new Cringer in the scared pose from Filmation. One Tone Silver sword from Flogg.
        Why? Adam on a Single Card with Cringer. Also, the new forearms to hold the sword aloft.

        Green Goddess:
        Reuse of the Teela mentioned above with a new Loincloth. Made with GITD Green Plastic because why not!?

        Who is the Thirteenth Figure?
        Wun-Dar: The infamous Wonderbread He-Man.
        Same formula from He-Man with the Zodac Armor, Gun, Repainted Zodac Head for him, New Head for him that makes him look Different enough from He-Man. Grayskull Weapons in Red as per the rumor.
        I ♥ Glimmer!

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        • #6
          I would only buy some of the corrected versions if the price is reasonable enough.
          Last edited by Mechanizor; 08-30-2014, 12:35 AM. Reason: A typo.

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          • #7
            HELL NO....as stated above i have also had enough of this line dealing with Mattel/Matty,enough of the DR nonsense,and more than enough of Scott's crap.

            At one point i would have collected another Motu line in smaller scale(not mini's) but not now,i'll stick with finishing off my vintage collection,which is a shame because when the motuc line started it was really good we were getting articulated motu figures,with great detail but the figures have not stood the test of time unfortunately.Can't see much of them lasting thirty odd years.

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            • #8
              Hmm... Good question. I'm not sure what I will buy. Fisto, Whiplash, Optikk are still high on my list...
              “Censorship always defeats it own purpose, for it creates in the end the kind of society that is incapable of exercising real discretion." ― Henry Steele Commager

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              • #9
                I'd totally buy reissues on vintage cards, or even something like full-kit He-Man, with all the alternate things like Alcala head, Filmation Power Sword, etc. I'd even like something like a minicomic Trap Jaw or a Roboto with all the different sets of attachements that fit him. Teela and Roboto are definitely top of my list for something like this.
                “What is freedom of expression? Without the freedom to offend, it ceases to exist."― Salman Rushdie

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                • #10
                  This thread should be retitled "Are you a sucker for punishment?".
                  "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." ― Noam Chomsky

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                  • teemu81
                    teemu81 commented
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                    If they made a 2.0 collection it would go through because the 10 Org members who bought it would buy all the subs just to keep the line going..

                • #11
                  teemu81, I've bought at least 2 subs since the subs started. I'm an org member, but I'm not active there. I will not buy a sub for a 2.0 line. As draego said, doing so would be crazy. I might cherry pick the figures I want though, and free from my promise to myself that I won't buy a MotUC from a 3rd party, I may evern preorder from BBTS or a third party to save me the WSOD (or whatever colour they change it to).
                  “Censorship always defeats it own purpose, for it creates in the end the kind of society that is incapable of exercising real discretion." ― Henry Steele Commager

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                  • #12
                    A 2.0 subscription would be such a cutthroat move for most... And Definitely not for me.

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                    • Novelty
                      Novelty commented
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                      Cash Grab by Mattel (what's new there?), but it might make sense for those who missed out on the figures the first time around and want to 'get 'em all' this time around. I'm not sure how many of those people there'll be, but it won't be me.

                  • #13
                    I'm at the point where I'm almost out of unique characters that I really want or care about, so I'm more excited to get versions of characters that I want to replace or regularly swap out. The only non-variants I really want are Sagitar, Crita, Sssqueeze, Blast Attack and Evilseed (MYP). Not every fan likes the original looks of the characters and would change things with their preferred version of the character (i.e., Battleground Teela's head on the normal Teela's body is MY Teela. Battle Armor King Hsss would be MY King Hsss. ZodaK is MY Zodac.).


                    200X/MYP Variants

                    • Ice Armor He-Man
                    • Prince Adam (200X Prince Adam)
                    Teenage Teela (200X Teenage Teela)
                    Sands of Time Sorceress (200X Sorceress)
                    Captain Randor
                    King Randor and Battle Armor Randor (200X Randor with furry cape and knee brace)
                    Queen Marlena and Battle Armor Marlena (200X Queen Marlena is a hard sell, so package her with her more popular battle armor variant)
                    Anwat Gar Sy-Klone (200X Sy-Klone with samurai sword and a Legacy Stone)
                    WMD Roboto (MYP Roboto with all of those new guns)
                    Cloak & Dagger Evil-Lyn (Evil-Lyn with Snow Cloak and hooded head, but most importantly of all her 200X Tunic)
                    Battle Armor Tri-Klops (200X costume, but come with cardback Tri-Klops head)
                    General Rattlor (MYP colors with 200X armor and arm and leg armor.)
                    200X Head Pack: Grizzlor, Snout Spout, Buzz-Off, Clawful and Sy-Klone (if he isn't getting a full-on variant)


                    Filmation Variants

                    • He-Man 2.0 (Basically an upgraded original He-Man figure with a Filmation head, sword, sword aloft hand and scabbard)
                    • Captain Teela (Filmation Teela with Blonde Alcala Teela head with hair in big ponytail)
                    • Trap Jaw (Filmation colors, arm and head, but more vibrant colors and trade Kronis parts for iconic Filmation attachments)
                    • Clawful (Filmation Clawful with Horn of Evil)
                    • Frosta 2.0 (Filmation head with light blue hair, WHITE parts to her costume instead of gray, translucent ice accessories)
                    • She-Ra weapons Pak (With plenty of "Sword-to" weapons and accessories from Filmation)
                    • Imp Pak (With a few notable Imp transformations from Filmation, PLUS Filmation Hordak head and bone cowl)


                    New 52 DC Comics Variants

                    • Yellow Cross He-Man (New 52 Original costume)
                    • Modern DC Teela (New 52 Original costume with both blonde and red heads)
                    • Battle Armor Teela (New 52 Teela with Man-At-Arms like costume)
                    • Green Goddess (New 52 Green Goddess that's non-translucent)
                    • Despara
                    • She-Ra (New 52 Original costume)


                    Mini-Comic and Cardback Variants

                    • Bounty Hunter Tri-Klops (Texiera costume)
                    • Green Goddess (Non-translucent)
                    • Prince Adam (Blue Vest)
                    • Ram Man (Orange and Red)
                    • Fugitive Trap Jaw (Texiera costume and green skin)
                    • Prince Stratos (Caucasian Alcala Stratos)


                    2.0 Figures in General

                    • Fisto 2.0 (No 200X weapons and belt, but vintage Fisto head, vintage fisto armor without big 200X sword slot, vintage Jitsu head)
                    • Sorceress 2.0 (No wing drums, so she can sit on Grayskull throne)

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                    • #14
                      Originally posted by MegaGearMax View Post


                      • Fisto 2.0 (No 200X weapons and belt, but vintage Fisto head, vintage fisto armor without big 200X sword slot, vintage Jitsu head))
                      Bingo! Thats what i need!

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                      • Shawn
                        Shawn commented
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                        I'd buy that, but I'd still want that 200X one I still don't have too. Why not just add a "NEW HEAD" as a callback to that "new" burst on the later characters?


                    • #15
                      Originally posted by MegaGearMax View Post
                      2.0 Figures in General

                      • Fisto 2.0 (No 200X weapons and belt, but vintage Fisto head, vintage fisto armor without big 200X sword slot, vintage Jitsu head)
                      • Sorceress 2.0 (No wing drums, so she can sit on Grayskull throne)
                      I'm on board with these as well. The vintage Jitsu head is so weird, it'd be great to see in Classics.

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                      • #16
                        If they ever do a 2.0 series, they need to fix up all the screwed up figures. Figures like Double Trouble and NA Skeletor need a 2.0 because they were poorly made the first time. Same goes for Sea Hawk and any figure that was given a fat armor.
                        "We must always value life. Even the life of one who opposes us." ― He-Man

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                        • Andy
                          Andy commented
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                          Plus the newer ankles and no more flat abs.
                          I hope they'd be at retail too just to not have to deal with digital blunder any more.

                        • Shawn
                          Shawn commented
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                          The figures are so ****ed up, they'll have to re-relase all of them. Evil master plan. LOL {*puts on Tin Foil hat]

                      • #17
                        I really like this idea. MOC collectors would love it, I might even become one... People who missed out on figure selling for $50-$100+ (like me) would be ecstatic! I don't think EVERY vintage character needs re-release, though a "greatest, fan demanded hits" continuation line would be awesome!

                        At the top of my Need list (characters I still don't own)

                        Sorceress (cloth cape, so she can sit)

                        Fisto ( w/ additional Vintage style head)

                        Swiftwind (with spirit conversion swappable parts)

                        Shadow Weaver...
                        Straight up, **** the selfish collectors who don't want me to have one! He-Man says you should share. I would share with you. The packaging and poster are exclusive and different enough to settle your desire IMO. Though, If you MUST be placated, I would happily take another version in a different shade of red. 2.0 repaint NOT different enough? SELFISH!

                        I'd also buy 2.0 of characters I already own., Though I feel the Goddess should be given to subscribers FOR FREE, as a thank you for all the QC problems we've had to endure. I don't think it's a sense of entitlement that makes me deserve this, Mattel's GREED and my stupidity has been taken advantage of time and time again. (I've lost track of how many broken figures I have...)

                        I'd love a More Alcala and Filmation Skeletor and MYP versions of others. I think "2.0" upgrades, would make then seam different enough. Besides, the swappable parts makes 2.0 and variant kind of the same thing IMO. "She-Ra 2.0" was Bubble Power She-ra right? Roboto 2.0 could be 200X version

                        6-12 TOTAL characters (no more, please) is a good idea. Announced in advanced, who and what we are getting, I would subscribe...$30 each. But I'm done supporting Mattel with blind faith going into 2016. They are going to have to earn my trust again, and yes, Scott being put on Hotwheels or whatever, would help to earn some of my trust back.
                        Last edited by Shawn; 09-10-2014, 06:23 AM.
                        Once upon a time, good advice was "be kind Rewind"now nobody remembers the past.

                        Masters of the universe The LOST TALES (a series of vintage style fan-comics and children's books)

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                        • #18
                          I would love to get 2.0 versions of MOTUC figures if they actually fixed some of the issues we had during the first run.
                          “We change people through conversation, not through censorship." ― Jay Z

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                          • #19
                            If Scott wouldn't be part of it - then it'd depend whether the improvements are good or not.
                            “A society that gets rid of all its troublemakers goes downhill." ― Robert A. Heinlein

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                            • #20
                              A lot of great answers here, thank you to those that have posted in this thread.

                              I have a feeling that Neitlich and Mattel will probably try to continue the MOTUC line in some form, even if its under a different name. It looks like they are trying to keep the MOTU brand going by offering those wastes of petroleum- the Giant Motu....those things look horrible in my opinion. But only customers can help decide the future of Matty.

                              As for myself, I am done with Mattel. I will never buy anything from them again, until they end all of their underhanded bullshit- and Neitlich has been removed from any position at Mattel (same difference)...

                              Neitlich should be banned from participating in any consumer market, expect maybe shinning shoes at a sewage plant.

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                              • #21
                                Originally posted by Jason Todd View Post
                                I have a feeling that Neitlich and Mattel will probably try to continue the MOTUC line in some form, even if its under a different name.
                                I can see that too. DCUC got what, 2, 3 restarts before it was finally sent out to pasture? MOTUC's molds will be used for something until they break or wear out. I could see Mattel using the MOTUC buck for other lines too, like Max Steel or something else. At the very least it seems they warmed us up for Son Of He-Man and DC New 52 versions of MOTUC.
                                “What is freedom of expression? Without the freedom to offend, it ceases to exist."― Salman Rushdie

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                                • #22
                                  Originally posted by _RZ_ View Post
                                  I could see Mattel using the MOTUC buck for other lines too, like Max Steel or something else.
                                  Yea man, it definitely wont be the first time if they do that. The "Demolition Man" figures, were basically reuses of the "New Adventures He-man" figures- just with a Stallone head instead of a He-man one. Mattel is regarded as the biggest (and probably wealthiest) toy company in the world, and they are always trying to cut corners... And Neitlich makes it seem like they are poverty stricken, which is their lame excuse to act like they "have no choice" but to overcharge for crap.

                                  The only reason why the powers-that-be of Mattel havent used any Barbie parts for MOTUC, is because they arent to scale with the line. If not for that, they would have been done it already. And even if they did, there would be those that would still buy a He-man figure, with a Barbie head...

                                  I could just hear Neitlich now:

                                  "We are giving you real hair now...no more sculpting but real hair with He-man figures now... We had to use Barbie heads, because oil prices have gone up- and we havent had the resources to produces actual He-man heads this year... You wouldnt believe the amount of hairs that we had to pluck, in order to make these...

                                  Come on guys, we are giving you REAL hair with He-man- who cares if its a Barbie head and not a He-man head.... How can you guys complain about that??!

                                  ITS REAL HAIR ON A MOTU FIGURE!

                                  ITS THE FIRST OF ITS KIND!"

                                  Mattel may be the biggest toy company in the world, but they also come off as the most stingy and greedy.

                                  P.s. Due to Mattel's record of f-ups, if they went the barbie parts route- their She-ra would probably get a Ken head.

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                                  • #23
                                    A 2.0 collection produced in its entirety by the 4HM would trump the current line. But I guess Neitlich's ego won't allow it.
                                    “Freedom of speech doesn't protect speech that you like, freedom of speech protects speech that you hate." ― Ron Jeremy

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                                    • #24
                                      Originally posted by Jason Todd View Post
                                      Mattel is regarded as the biggest (and probably wealthiest) toy company in the world, and they are always trying to cut corners... And Neitlich makes it seem like they are poverty stricken, which is their lame excuse to act like they "have no choice" but to overcharge for crap.
                                      Well in some respect I can't blame them for wanting to bring their costs down. It's what every business does. They are the 2nd biggest and wealthiest because of all that reuse. I never mind reuse or straight reissues, it's part of the MOTUC aesthetic. It's how these things can be profitable for them. In general we fans have to realize, while this might be Matty.com's biggest line, and our focus and interest, it truly is a drop in the water when you compare it to the real focus and heavy hitters for Mattel: barbie, hot wheels, monster high, max steel. This doesn't justify Scott's lies and nonsense, but maybe it puts things into perspective. Max Steel alone is all over the Spanish speaking world, and is far more popular than MOTU right now. They've used MOTUC parts in DCUC figures. MOTUC is small potatoes compared to these other lines, money-making wise.

                                      But let's not kid ourselves: MOTUC makes Mattel plenty of profit, or else they never would have added the Wind Raider, or Grayskull, or Battle Ram. No one has ever added SKUs to a dying line. This is fact!



                                      Originally posted by Jason Todd View Post
                                      I could just hear Neitlich now:

                                      "We are giving you real hair now...no more sculpting but real hair with He-man figures now... We had to use Barbie heads, because oil prices have gone up- and we havent had the resources to produces actual He-man heads this year... You wouldnt believe the amount of hairs that we had to pluck, in order to make these...

                                      Come on guys, we are giving you REAL hair with He-man- who cares if its a Barbie head and not a He-man head.... How can you guys complain about that??!

                                      ITS REAL HAIR ON A MOTU FIGURE!

                                      ITS THE FIRST OF ITS KIND!"
                                      ahahaha! Well it wouldn't be first (that would be Megator!) but I would be into seeing real hair on some He-Man product. I am confident enough in my masculinity that having a real hair figure on my shelf wouldn't make me feel inferior or something and I am sure Scott is so desperate for a sale he'd follow your script above

                                      It would be great to see a 2.0 line either be a continuation of MOTUC buck and style, or something completely different. I am just not too psyched on DC New 52 versions, all of the new comic designs are horrible cheesy cliches. It's like the 1990's came and left us their "Extreme!" version. All they need are some pouches and some cans of Mountain Dew and it's bad 90's Image comics all over again. He-Man doesn't wear pants, full stop. I highly doubt Scott would be involved in a new line as much as he was in MOTUC, thankfully, he's going to be moved to something else.
                                      “What is freedom of expression? Without the freedom to offend, it ceases to exist."― Salman Rushdie

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                                      • #25
                                        Here's proof that Neitlich and Mattel are probably going to continue MOTUC, as a rebranded line.


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