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**Mechanizor** · 09-06-2014, 05:51 PM

TG has claimed in the early days that a figure usually needs 6-9 months ahead of time to go through any proper design changes to it, and how he changed his story to that idiotic 18-24 claim is beyond me, even if the factories they're using are so super busy and on a very tight schedule, two years in advance is just farce!

I think it's all about saving money, the less fixing they do, the more profit they'll keep.

**Guest** · 09-06-2014, 06:24 PM

No surprise there... All they do is lie, Neitlich has built an entire career around lies... Catra's Wrath is another one, I still remember how he was trying to use bs semantics to justify the "day-of" selling of Sea Hawk- after it was originally offered as a "Sub-Exclusive".

For those that are interested here's another LIE, that was exposed not long ago:

**barrasco** · 09-06-2014, 07:28 PM

As long as the people supporting this line believe and help spread those lies you guys can rest assure that the lying will never stop. Need proof?

Originally posted by idiot at the .Org about NA Skeletor's shoulders

I have to take the fact that the shoulder pins are manufactured so they only fit one way as proof they are not reversed. I think they look fine and so far as I can tell and as far as Mattel has commented, they are not reversed.

**MIDOR** · 09-06-2014, 08:53 PM

I believe nothing has been done because they wanted to wait and see if the 2015 line would meet the minimum sub amount.

**Eterni-or** · 09-06-2014, 10:28 PM

So we should expect Mara in late 2016 then?

**GREP-A-TOR** · 09-07-2014, 06:13 AM

grrrrrrrrr, damn sheeple need to rise up and throw this back into his face.

**Mechanizor** · 09-07-2014, 06:45 AM

Originally posted by GREP-A-TOR View Post

grrrrrrrrr, damn sheeple need to rise up and throw this back into his face.

You're talking about the brainwashed sheeple here who would even accept broken figures and say no biggie, there is always superglue, and still would thank TG for the line's existence!

**Nemisythe** · 09-07-2014, 07:02 AM

Not defending Scott but it could also possibly mean that the line of questioning was getting to close to answers and Catra's Wrath doesn't have the authority to answer said questions? Other than that I can't understand why the continuous questions to some extent: we know this is it for the line, what we're getting... Always asking the same thing over and over just adds to some of our fellow fans dismay.

**teemu81** · 09-07-2014, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by Draego-Man View Post

http://forums.mattycollector.com/eve...7/m/8361060578

They have been telling us for a long time that it takes 18 to 24 months for any changes to be made to a figure and that's been their excuse for not fixing fat suits, granny panties etc. etc. Well it turns out this is a FLAT OUT LIE!

Mara is supposed to be GUARANTEED for 2015, and if that is the case, then she should be well into the design stage. Yet here we have it straight from the horses mouth that "no work" has been done on her at all and that fans should be vocal about what they'd like to see.

Are you ****ing kidding me?

How anyone can believe a single solitary word these lying sack of shits say is beyond me.

I'm really tired of that butt kissing tool Catra's Wraith answering questions and giving no real answers...

**Mechanizor** · 09-08-2014, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by teemu81 View Post

I'm really tired of that butt kissing tool Catra's Wraith answering questions and giving no real answers...

Probably she is just another account for Neitlich, especially when he keeps claiming that his division/brand only consists of 3-4 people!

**barrasco** · 09-08-2014, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by Nemisythe View Post

Not defending Scott but it could also possibly mean that the line of questioning was getting to close to answers and Catra's Wrath doesn't have the authority to answer said questions? Other than that I can't understand why the continuous questions to some extent: we know this is it for the line, what we're getting... Always asking the same thing over and over just adds to some of our fellow fans dismay.

Asking about the design choices for a figure which has already been confirmed is a very legit question. It would help avoiding things like BG Evil-lyn or FAILmation Hordak.

**Black Zodac** · 09-08-2014, 01:44 PM

Mmmmm.....

Admittedly, Mara would require very little tooling. She shouldn't take very long to do at all. I never believed the 18 month rule that Scott applied to the brand, so I'm sure that was just another lie... er ... exaggeration on his part to get out of doing things properly. I really hope that when MOTUC finishes, Scott Neitlich is nowhere near the brand when it goes back to retail for the movie.

**MegaGearMax** · 09-08-2014, 03:01 PM

TG ALWAYS tells us that there aren't any plans for figures that are actually being planned. This is nothing new.

Remember when conversations about Whiplash haven't taken place yet, only for Whiplash to be revealed at NYTF?

Sssqueeze is on the way in 2015, but TG would never tell us anything about the figure until he's revealed. Mara is the exact same way.

**_RZ_** · 09-08-2014, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by MegaGearMax View Post

TG ALWAYS tells us that there aren't any plans for figures that are actually being planned. This is nothing new.

Remember when conversations about Whiplash haven't taken place yet, only for Whiplash to be revealed at NYTF?

Sssqueeze is on the way in 2015, but TG would never tell us anything about the figure until he's revealed. Mara is the exact same way.

This 100%-

Nothing new that they play the "nothing planned" card and then -surprise!- the figure is revealed. It doesn't bother me.

Maybe they've started on the figure, and Catra's Wrath doesn't know about it. Or maybe they really haven't started it yet. Or, if you're feeling sinister, they haven't started it, and Catra's Wrath is throwing shade to dodge the question, so Matty can blow off any fan suggestions and cut costs.

We all know the lead time statements, and design vs. 4H statements, to both be totally false at this point. We can't expect a forum mod to be aware of the production details of every figure in the pipeline. As they've mentioned before, they moderate the forum, it's TG who provides those details. There's more than enough shenanigans on in this topic, we don't need to be unreasonable in expectations of forum mods, or shoot at every shadow that appears.

We can reasonably infer from past statements from Matty, that it takes them about 6-9 months of lead time for most figures. Snake MAA is the most blatant and documented of figures that were changed from proto to final, and that was released about 9 months after the fan requested changes. If we take the shortest lead time TG has mentioned, as Mechanaizor said above, 6 months, as the shortest of the range, and the actual 9 months from Snake MAA- we get 6-9 months. So if we use that time frame, Catra's Wrath's statement is still accurate.

Also, if the figure is released after Sept 2015, it would still be a 12+ month timeframe, so this post about Mara doesn't prove or disprove anything currently. The year-long lead times have already been disproven, with the existence of the Snake MAA figure, so no need to disprove it again

**Arkangel** · 09-08-2014, 11:45 PM

You know, at the end of the day Scott get's the job done selling these toys, Liar or not, he seems to drag but always succeeds

**Crespo** · 09-09-2014, 12:29 PM

Like MGM said, that's Standard Operating Procedure for Mattycollector. I take what CW says with a grain of salt since he is NOT Toyguru. It's all in the idea that they want to "surprise us" by keeping everything under wraps until they reveal and it's "too late to fix things"... (and that's how we can't catch the horrible mistakes like non-filmation head for hordak, wrong paint decos for Madame Razz, the clusterflock that was NA Skeletor, etc.) Good thing they got rid of Ruben "Mediocre" Martinez

**Shawn** · 09-10-2014, 02:01 AM

How about something as simple as a "no comment then" or how-about Mattel's mouth, Toyguru simply just DOES NOT COMMENT. You don't see Hasbro getting on the internet telling us all the things they are/are not doing. Hasbro doesn't troll the **** out of the community like this guy does! But hey, once again, look at that...We are talking more about Toyguru rather then the toys themselves...and it was CW that made this comment. WOW (I blame my self too as I'm now contributing!) I know how hard it is to STFU, but wouldn't we ALL be better off if some of us just STFU a little more? I challenge Toyguru to start shutting the **** up, (this includes CW) so that we can stop talking about all this bullshit, and return to talking about the toys & Stories!

Besides, more then half of what he says he gets from an a lying, non-answering 8 ball. I don't understand WHY people hang on every word of this ONE MARKETING MAN as if he was like God? "According to God's Will" = "Scott Said" and drawing conclusions by comparing one thing Scott/god said to another seams counter productive to maintaining a healthy community and fostering real discussions IMO. All Mattel cares about is how much stuff they can convince us to buy. They care nothing for this community or the people they hurt. They aren't a part of it, they are ABOVE it, and only communicate with us to get us to open our wallets to them.

Catra's Wrath, is just one of Mattel's minions. He does and says what he is told to do and say. Does anyone even know his real name? I would bet you money he is "one of us" and Scott pays him in free toys...No sense in getting angry, don't shoot the messenger. Your watch breaks, you don't get mad at a cog, you replace it. Mattel aren't the enemy, but they also aren't a friend, so who gives a flying **** what they say? Why Does anyone really care? (Real question, not rhetorical. I'm genuinely curious.)

Originally posted by Arkangel View Post

You know, at the end of the day Scott get's the job done selling these toys, Liar or not, he seems to drag but always succeeds

He succeeded at fracturing the community and turning fan against fan. Black listing one of the post prolific and talented among us...Is that what You mean? Yup MOTUC is awesome. all of the toys I ever wanted, and it only cost me some people I use to respect

**Draego-Man** · 09-10-2014, 01:52 PM

Catra's Wrath is a terrible human being. Rude, deceitful, and authoritarian to the core.

**_RZ_** · 09-10-2014, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by Draego-Man View Post

Catra's Wrath is a terrible human being. Rude, deceitful, and authoritarian to the core.

See I don't know her (him?) at all personally or read their posts much, so I can't make that type of call. I think they're policing the community as per Mattel's instructions. I honestly think she doesn't know anything about Mattel's in-progress products beyond what Scott tells her, based on many of the answers I have read over time.

I think people who ignore problems, put down those who don't, play the fake-positivity game, or pretend that the lies don't happen... those people are the real problem. CW is just doing their job... these other people are being rude and deceitful for free.

**Draego-Man** · 09-10-2014, 03:56 PM

She banned me for asking totally legitimate questions. I wasn't rude, I wasn't confrontational, I simply asked questions that cut the shit and went straight to the point. All they want from that forum is people blowing smoke up TG's ass. If you don't do that, it's the ban hammer for you! How someone can feel good about themselves living their life like that is beyond me. It is the same thing that goes on at the ORG with Val and his army of Nazis. Utterly reprehensible.

**barrasco** · 09-10-2014, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by _RZ_ View Post

I think people who ignore problems, put down those who don't, play the fake-positivity game, or pretend that the lies don't happen... those people are the real problem. CW is just doing their job... these other people are being rude and deceitful for free.

Also known as Matty Apologists or simply Neitlickers.

**Mechanizor** · 09-10-2014, 10:58 PM

I have a feeling that Catra's Wrath is actually Scott's alter ego.

**Guest** · 09-15-2014, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by Mechanaizor View Post

I have a feeling that Catra's Wrath is actually Scott's alter ego.

Haha it could be that Scotty is channeling his inner Norman Bates (hes definitely not Two-Face, Neitlich lacks the balls)...

The man (and I use the term "man" very loosely here) is filled with soo many lies- that one persona is no longer enough for his scheming mind.

Its a good thing that he (they) lives with a psychotherapist, its just too bad that no amount of therapy can stop his pathological lying.

**Mechanizor** · 09-16-2014, 12:48 AM

Originally posted by Jason Todd View Post

Its a good thing that he (they) lives with a psychotherapist, its just too bad that no amount of therapy can stop his pathological lying.

Well, that depends... If the psychotherapist you mention is twisted like TG is, she could show him more ways on how to be even more manipulative with his deeds. After all, greed has no limits.

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