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  • Rumor: The End of MOTUC & Snake Mountain Cancelled?

    Rumours are swirling that the line will not be continued beyond the end of this year and that Snake Mountain will not be made. So far this is speculation, but there is some indication that it comes from a legitimate source. Anyone know the score here?

    If they end the line without making Snake Mountain I'll be pissed!!!
    "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." ― Noam Chomsky

  • #2
    Ok, I found the post that everyone is upset about and all it really says is that it hasn't gone into production yet, not that it will never be made...

    https://www.facebook.com/Mattel/posts/10153828144937600

    That said, bcrduke is suggesting it is scrapped and he's made a lot of predictions that have come true.
    "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." ― Noam Chomsky

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    • #3
      Interesting, it would be sad if they kill the line before getting SM and some proper major vehicles and other potential playsets...

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      • #4
        In retrospect, it seems to have been heading in this direction for some time. Constant delays are likely leading to some subscribers jumping ship. I'd be surprised if it continued past this year.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by MrCellophane View Post
          In retrospect, it seems to have been heading in this direction for some time. Constant delays are likely leading to some subscribers jumping ship. I'd be surprised if it continued past this year.
          Yeah, "the writing's on the wall" so to speak... Still, I'd be bummed to see this happening before getting a few goodies!

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          • #6
            This would suck, I hope it's not true. I love Classics. Really worry about the future of Thundercats too.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Y2Greg View Post
              This would suck, I hope it's not true. I love Classics. Really worry about the future of Thundercats too.
              If MOTUC goes down in that manner, you bet that Thundercats would follow suit...

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              • #8
                Even if MOTUC did officially "end", I suspect we would still end up getting Snake Mountain with the Filmation "Club Grayskull" toy line.
                "We must always value life. Even the life of one who opposes us." ― He-Man

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                • #9
                  I think He-Man.org is blowing this out of proportion. I can see the Collector's line maybe ending,but the Filmation line will continue,along with the thundercats into 2017

                  I also see Snake Mountain happening in 2017 too.Even the Four Horsemen said they were still working on it

                  The clown who started the thread/rumor because he supposedly "is in the know" is just an attention *****

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                  • Dark Angel
                    Dark Angel commented
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                    +1

                    There is simply no evidence supporting this little panic. None whatsoever.

                • #10
                  Originally posted by Captain Atkin View Post
                  Even if MOTUC did officially "end", I suspect we would still end up getting Snake Mountain with the Filmation "Club Grayskull" toy line.
                  I'm confused now, was the alleged rumor about cancelling just the the Collector's Choice sub/line, or the whole MOTUC line all together including the "Club Grayskull" sub/line?

                  The whole concept of the Filmation style figures is to continue using the same reused molds/parts, and cancelling the old "Classics" style line won't change much of the budget if the figures keep selling well enough!

                  And they always can tackle the extra budgets of vehicles and playsets with pre-orders, no?

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                  • #11
                    Here is a petition to keep the dream alive! It was started by a MOTUC fan from the other forums, it doesn't hurt to sign it:

                    http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/s...snake-mountain

                    BTW, you don't have to donate any money to get your voice heard.

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                    • teemu81
                      teemu81 commented
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                      I guarantee that Mattel does not care about any petitions

                    • Mechanizor
                      Mechanizor commented
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                      Maybe not, however if this was directed to the right personnel, it could show them there is still such a demand for it...

                  • #12
                    From MattyCollector: Catra's Wrath's latest responses in regards to this issue:

                    * "There is nothing to announce for Snake Mountain at this time. As announced at the time of reveal, Snake Mountain (much like Castle Grayskull before it) would not go into production until a pre-sale period had been completed and a minimum order target requirement met."

                    * "
                    There are many rumours floating around at the moment, but they are rumours and assumption. Until you hear an official statement from Mattel on any product - take things with a pinch of salt."

                    Hmm, still kinda vague answers in my opinion...

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                    • #13
                      All of this sounds like a buildup to another big "end of MOTU" pr push like a few years back. Pretend the line is in danger so everyone subs. the higher ups holding SM hostage depending on sub sales, until the fall and then have something big to reveal (snake mountain) at New York comic con. Maybe even tease the POP castle if they get enough POP buzz. This time though they can say "we never actually said that, it was all a rumor" versus getting trapped in a lie like Scott was. I know this is a very paranoid view but Mattel has actually done this several times before with this line.
                      “What is freedom of expression? Without the freedom to offend, it ceases to exist."― Salman Rushdie

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                      • #14
                        So far a lot of pessimistic speculations about the Snake Mountain and MOTUC's future in 2017... Even Neitlich has mentioned that the SM was scheduled for 2015's holiday season before he left working with the company, and the more it gets delayed the more chances it's not going to happen! (Take his words with a grain of salt).

                        If we don't hear anything about the progress of the line from now until the SDCC's event, I guess the end is sooner than what we thought before...

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                        • #15
                          Originally posted by Mechanizor View Post
                          So far a lot of pessimistic speculations about the Snake Mountain and MOTUC's future in 2017... Even Neitlich has mentioned that the SM was scheduled for 2015's holiday season before he left working with the company, and the more it gets delayed the more chances it's not going to happen! (Take his words with a grain of salt).

                          If we don't hear anything about the progress of the line from now until the SDCC's event, I guess the end is sooner than what we thought before...
                          Yeah, but didn't he also mention something about packing in a King Hssss torso with BS Hordak?
                          With big companies things change, almost constantly. I'm not gonna get too worried just yet.

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                          • #16
                            Where did that rumor come from that Brian Ozone mentioned on his podcast? The rumor about the Snake Mountain sculpt having been broken & Mattel throwing in the towel, not even wanting to fix the thing in order to shrink it down....
                            Hopefully a rumor like that can be quickly squashed if untrue. If it is true, then ****!!!

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                            • Captain Atkin
                              Captain Atkin commented
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                              Why would they throw in the towel over a broken sculpt? I think you can safely chalk that one up as a silly rumor.

                            • Croc-O-Bite!
                              Croc-O-Bite! commented
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                              Well, it is Mattel after all. Who knows what they're thinking at any given time. They did after all once send out cases full of just Smash Blade He-man and full cases of just Spin Blade Skeletors. Lol

                              I was more curious where Brian had heard it. Hopefully it didn't gather much steam

                          • #17
                            Originally posted by Croc-O-Bite! View Post
                            Where did that rumor come from that Brian Ozone mentioned on his podcast? The rumor about the Snake Mountain sculpt having been broken & Mattel throwing in the towel, not even wanting to fix the thing in order to shrink it down....
                            Hopefully a rumor like that can be quickly squashed if untrue. If it is true, then ****!!!
                            I think that rumor was a total BS. Cornboy from the 4HM has said in an interview I just posted in the other Con thread that they've resized the Snake Mountain months ago and already sent it to Mattel... It's up to Mattel if they wanna make it happen or not.

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                            • #18
                              Thanks for that Mech. I'll have to check out the other thread then to see that interview.

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                              • #19
                                So, someone on the ORG says he overheard Brandon telling Scott at Power-Con that this is the last year for MOTUC, Club Grayskull, even Thundercats and that the lines are being cancelled. Thoughts?

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                                • Croc-O-Bite!
                                  Croc-O-Bite! commented
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                                  A lot of that would have to depend on who the person is over there who claims to have heard this. How credible is the person? After all, there are a lot of asshats over there......

                              • #20
                                Originally posted by Shecky View Post
                                So, someone on the ORG says he overheard Brandon telling Scott at Power-Con that this is the last year for MOTUC, Club Grayskull, even Thundercats and that the lines are being cancelled. Thoughts?

                                If it's true, I'm done buying from Mattel.

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                                • #21
                                  Originally posted by Shecky View Post
                                  So, someone on the ORG says he overheard Brandon telling Scott at Power-Con that this is the last year for MOTUC, Club Grayskull, even Thundercats and that the lines are being cancelled. Thoughts?
                                  My thoughts were:

                                  a) Why Neitlich hasn't denied it if it wasn't true?

                                  b) Why the moderators of that forums let the discussions take place regardless of how truthful the original post was especially knowing how they censor/delete things they don't like, and such negative news could trigger a good number of dropped subscriptions?

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                                  • Shecky
                                    Shecky commented
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                                    Well, the post comes from someone with just a handful of posts and who only joined earlier in the year. I'm not saying post count is relevant, but a few things to consider:

                                    *This person claims to, while knowing it was wrong, sit close to them and eavesdrop on the alleged conservation. Subsequently, he wonders why no one else brought it up which doesn't make sense....were there others eavesdropping nearby as well, then, and wouldn't that be noticeable to Brandon and Scott? Big news like that, *if* true, one wouldn't sit on it for days.

                                    *Why would Brandon leak proprietary information like that to a former employee, now VP of a competitor?

                                    *Why would Scott say anything, potentially opening himself to trouble in the process? It is not his place as he no longer works at Mattel.

                                    *Given all the licensed merchandise, new DC MOTU Comics forthcoming, progress on the film currently being developed, and rehaul of the Matty forums, something is most definitely up, but maybe for the better. In particular with Matty, why overhaul the forums that would only be up for a few months if the lines were going to cease? Wouldn't make financial sense.

                                  • Captain Atkin
                                    Captain Atkin commented
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                                    I would take that post over at He-Man.org with a HUGE grain of salt.

                                  • Mechanizor
                                    Mechanizor commented
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                                    Shecky; Scott has nothing to lose if he says yes or no on the subject, however I agree with the rest of your points and I remain skeptical regarding the whole fiasco. The first thing I did yesterday, was checking the OP's previous posts, and the guy didn't comeback to post again after his doom and gloom note, and I don't know if it was sick joke of his, or got banned/suspended by the Org's police!!!

                                    Captain; I am taking it as you've suggested. There is a lot of ifs and whys in that post, not to mention the annoying wall of text in that thread of theirs!

                                • #22
                                  Looks like TG is still roaming the org's forums and just posted in another thread, however he remained silent on the line's cancellation rumor!... Hmmm!

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                                  • #23
                                    Of course Scooter is staying quiet... that way he can continue to pretend that he is in the know, when really he knows absolutely nothing.
                                    "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." ― Noam Chomsky

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                                    • Mechanizor
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                                      It's a possibility that he's pretending to know stuff!

                                  • #24
                                    Well, Brandon just confirmed on Twitter that he did talk to Scott as he saw what was posted on the org........but nothing was ever said about the lines ending.

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                                    • #25
                                      According to the guy who asked Brandon, this was his reply:

                                      "just read this, while I did talk to Scott I'm pretty sure I did not spell out specifics like that."

                                      So, the answer is still kinda vague IMO!... Oh well, sooner or later we'll know for sure what's cooking...

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                                      • teemu81
                                        teemu81 commented
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                                        It's very vague....Why not just say ''More MOTU coming''. Why is that just a hard thing to say from Mattel or anyone working there?

                                      • Mechanizor
                                        Mechanizor commented
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                                        Hard to tell exactly what he meant in regards to the rumor itself!

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